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#1 OFFLINE   barfight

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 11:49 AM

OK, this will be long but I'm trying to get as much information in here as possible.
2006 Ford Taurus 3.0 L, V6, 57k.
I bought this car from a private dealer about a year ago. A few months after I got it, it started beeping and displaying to check the brake system when I would come to a stop. This would happen for a couple of weeks, then stop happening for a couple of weeks. (The brake system is fine.) This would happen once the tachometer dropped below 1000 rpm, light would go off and alarm would stop sounding once I gave it some gas. Check engine light came on later (not necessarily at the same time the brake alarm was coming on) it threw a code for random misfire. Check engine light comes and goes. A couple months after this started, the engine would occasionally shut off once the brake system light come on and when I was coming to a stop (below 1000 rpm) but I could put it in neutral and it would fire up again no problem. This issue has been a come and go thing for several months. Now it's getting worse. It goes in 2 to 3 week cycles of acting up, and then it will have no problems for a few weeks. After a few months, when the light would come on and beep (sometimes incessantly) when coming to a stop, all the needles on the gauges would dive to zero and vibrate for a while, then everything return to normal. Sometimes the engine would shut off at the same time, not always. Then it began doing it when I wasn't coming to a stop. Engine would shut off while driving at highway speeds, but re-engage by itself after a few seconds. Sometimes using a turn signal or rolling a window up or down would make this happen. Sometimes the engine doesn't re-engage itself, I put it in neutral, start it up again, and am on my merry way. Again, this is hit-or-miss. Sometimes happens, not always. The first time I took it to my mechanic, about 6 months ago, they said it was electrical and they could go through all of it and have to charge me alot without a guarantee that they find the problem. I've been putting up with it. Now, along with the turning off, there is a relay switch under the dash that I can sometimes hear clicking when it turns off. Sometimes fast, sometimes slow. It will click for @ 30 seconds, while the gauges are all quivering at zero, then everything returns to normal. Sometimes when the "check brake system" light is flashing and beeping at me (again, below 1000rpm) it is switching between the brake message and "data system error". The final straw has been in the last week, when along with turning off at both stopping and highway speeds, the lights, wipers, hazards everything turns off too. Before nothing electrical was long when the engine shut off, but now the whole thing is losing power. I was on the highway at night in the rain earlier this week and on 3 occasions EVERYTHING turned off. Couldn't turn on hazards to alert people around me, I just disappeared and lost power. Pulled over, waited a few minutes, car started, I clutched the wheel and drove for a while before it would happen again. A couple of days ago it refused to start for 30 minutes while the relay switch clicked away. Doors lock and unlock themselves, dome lights started flashing for no reason while driving recently....is that enough information for now? It is with my mechanic right now, has been there since yesterday morning. This is no longer an inconvenience that I can deal with my giving it some gas at a stop light, and I really need help! Mechanic can't figure it out, because after I left it with them it stopped misbehaving. They've been driving it around for the past day and a half and can't replicate the problem. I'm stuck at home with nothing to do but patrol forums....so have at it! I can use any ideas anyone might have!






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#2 OFFLINE   Cannh

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:44 AM

OK, this will be long but I'm trying to get as much information in here as possible.
2006 Ford Taurus 3.0 L, V6, 57k.
I bought this car from a private dealer about a year ago. A few months after I got it, it started beeping and displaying to check the brake system when I would come to a stop. This would happen for a couple of weeks, then stop happening for a couple of weeks. (The brake system is fine.) This would happen once the tachometer dropped below 1000 rpm, light would go off and alarm would stop sounding once I gave it some gas. Check engine light came on later (not necessarily at the same time the brake alarm was coming on) it threw a code for random misfire. Check engine light comes and goes. A couple months after this started, the engine would occasionally shut off once the brake system light come on and when I was coming to a stop (below 1000 rpm) but I could put it in neutral and it would fire up again no problem. This issue has been a come and go thing for several months. Now it's getting worse. It goes in 2 to 3 week cycles of acting up, and then it will have no problems for a few weeks. After a few months, when the light would come on and beep (sometimes incessantly) when coming to a stop, all the needles on the gauges would dive to zero and vibrate for a while, then everything return to normal. Sometimes the engine would shut off at the same time, not always. Then it began doing it when I wasn't coming to a stop. Engine would shut off while driving at highway speeds, but re-engage by itself after a few seconds. Sometimes using a turn signal or rolling a window up or down would make this happen. Sometimes the engine doesn't re-engage itself, I put it in neutral, start it up again, and am on my merry way. Again, this is hit-or-miss. Sometimes happens, not always. The first time I took it to my mechanic, about 6 months ago, they said it was electrical and they could go through all of it and have to charge me alot without a guarantee that they find the problem. I've been putting up with it. Now, along with the turning off, there is a relay switch under the dash that I can sometimes hear clicking when it turns off. Sometimes fast, sometimes slow. It will click for @ 30 seconds, while the gauges are all quivering at zero, then everything returns to normal. Sometimes when the "check brake system" light is flashing and beeping at me (again, below 1000rpm) it is switching between the brake message and "data system error". The final straw has been in the last week, when along with turning off at both stopping and highway speeds, the lights, wipers, hazards everything turns off too. Before nothing electrical was long when the engine shut off, but now the whole thing is losing power. I was on the highway at night in the rain earlier this week and on 3 occasions EVERYTHING turned off. Couldn't turn on hazards to alert people around me, I just disappeared and lost power. Pulled over, waited a few minutes, car started, I clutched the wheel and drove for a while before it would happen again. A couple of days ago it refused to start for 30 minutes while the relay switch clicked away. Doors lock and unlock themselves, dome lights started flashing for no reason while driving recently....is that enough information for now? It is with my mechanic right now, has been there since yesterday morning. This is no longer an inconvenience that I can deal with my giving it some gas at a stop light, and I really need help! Mechanic can't figure it out, because after I left it with them it stopped misbehaving. They've been driving it around for the past day and a half and can't replicate the problem. I'm stuck at home with nothing to do but patrol forums....so have at it! I can use any ideas anyone might have!


WOW! Looks like I'm not the only one with a "possessed" Taurus!!!! I have a 2005 SEL that has been acting up for a few years now. I've had it in and out of the shop and they can never get it to "act-up" while they have it. Mine has only once shut off while driving, but I have had MANY issues of the gauges and lights flickering and quivering. The very first time that this occurred was while I was driving on the highway and the "check brakes" light/signal came on and immediately the gauges dropped to zero and started flickering. Usually this happens as soon as I turn the engine off, but occasionally it happens right when I open the door to get into it. I let it settle down, then it will start right up. I have started a log of when it acts up and took the very LONG listing to my dealership the last time I took it in. They had it for 5 weeks and could NOT get it to act up! I AM AT A LOSS and it sucks to have a car that is not reliable!

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:16 PM

WOW! Looks like I'm not the only one with a "possessed" Taurus!!!! I have a 2005 SEL that has been acting up for a few years now. I've had it in and out of the shop and they can never get it to "act-up" while they have it. Mine has only once shut off while driving, but I have had MANY issues of the gauges and lights flickering and quivering. The very first time that this occurred was while I was driving on the highway and the "check brakes" light/signal came on and immediately the gauges dropped to zero and started flickering. Usually this happens as soon as I turn the engine off, but occasionally it happens right when I open the door to get into it. I let it settle down, then it will start right up. I have started a log of when it acts up and took the very LONG listing to my dealership the last time I took it in. They had it for 5 weeks and could NOT get it to act up! I AM AT A LOSS and it sucks to have a car that is not reliable!


Hi Cannh,

As you've experienced, intermittent electrical concerns can be difficult to diagnose. It sounds like your dealer has been proactive in trying to locate the cause of your issues, but you may want to consider taking it to a different dealer for a second opinion. Sometimes a fresh look helps catch the reason for electrical concerns. If that is not convenient, I recommend speaking to the Service Manager at your dealership, as they may be able to assist.

~Natasha

Edited by FordCustomerService, 25 August 2011 - 02:17 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:06 PM

Hi Cannh,

As you've experienced, intermittent electrical concerns can be difficult to diagnose. It sounds like your dealer has been proactive in trying to locate the cause of your issues, but you may want to consider taking it to a different dealer for a second opinion. Sometimes a fresh look helps catch the reason for electrical concerns. If that is not convenient, I recommend speaking to the Service Manager at your dealership, as they may be able to assist.

~Natasha




FYI - After yet ANOTHER visit to the dealership......they finally replaced the "gem module" and might I say (with my fingers crossed) that I have not had any issues since then. Just maybe hope in sight!!!!
~Cannh

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 08:54 AM

FYI - After yet ANOTHER visit to the dealership......they finally replaced the "gem module" and might I say (with my fingers crossed) that I have not had any issues since then. Just maybe hope in sight!!!!
~Cannh


Thank you Cannh- after several months of a well behaved car, it's started acting up again, so it's nice to have some info to go on this time. Fingers crossed....